Is faith really enough?

Is faith really enough?

I am a proud atheist, and I believe that there is no higher power. I have asked multiple Christians what proof they have that there is a god, but all of them have said that faith is enough. Some have also told me that there is no proof that there is NOT a god. Well, I'm sure some of you have seen the meme with the teacher saying "Can you see God? Can you hear God? Then there is no God!" and the student replying with "Can you see your brain? Can you hear your brain? Then you don't have a brain!" There is scientific proof that humans have brains, though. X-rays and such. Is there any scientific proof of there being a god? I don't mean to start a fight (I believe I have started way too many fights already), but I'm just wondering: "Is faith enough? Do you need scientific evidence? Do you have any scientific evidence?" Also, completely unrelated to the question, "Is your god a good one? If he just sat there while the Holocaust happened, and sat there and watched while terrorists bombed churches, and sat there and watched while drunks ran into schools and murdered many children, is he good? I can be good without a god. Can you? Do you have any way to justify his actions (and not saying anything from the Bible without scientific proof, please!) ?" Also, you know how something can be considered a god? It has to be omniscient, which means you know what everyone is thinking and what everyone will do, and omnipotent, which means you can do anything. If it is not both of those things, it is not a god. Well, can your god make a stone so heavy he cannot lift it? If he can't, then he is not omnipotent, so he is not a god. If he can, then he is also not omnipotent, because he cannot lift the stone, so he is not a god. If you have any contradictions, please respectfully state them in the comments. If you agree with me, then that's great

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SuperSnow
I'm a proud Christian, and even though I don't know everything there is to know about the Bible, I was raised in a church and I believe and have faith in God. But that doesn't mean I can get into arguments with atheists or someone who believes differently than me. You don't have to believe that faith is enough, but I do.
I believe that God created everything, and that's just what I believe. I have faith that he will guide me through this life according to his plan. I have faith See More▼
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Jeweled_Feather
I am also a proud atheist. I agree that "faith" is not enough. We need living proof!
MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
I just voted your answer up!
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Jeweled_Feather
Thanks!
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Animgame
The exact reason God created us was to have someone faithfully choose to have a relationship. He didn't want mindless freaks saying, "God is love. I love Him." everyday.

Some people branched off and didn't like this "God."

So, the reason He can't do anything is because He gave us Free Will. We choose to do with our lives, God influences us.

I hope that answers your question of "Is your God a good one?" (Sorry if capitalizing God offends you.)


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MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
First of all, thanks for being respectful and mindful of my feelings. (I don't capitalize god myself, but it's fine if you do it.)
Second of all, I'm pretty sure that I'll never pray and believe. Thanks for not forcing it down my windpipes and yelling "DO IT!" though! :3
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Rebel_Assasin
(I may have not awnsered this question- if not, I apologize if I offend you)
No matter how many times, I disagree faith isn't enough. I really wouldn't think God would be like "Oh hey! They believe! That's good enough" and be done with it. What's the point of God helping if you don't do anything but believe? I also despise the fact that some have given their time up to shove Christianity down non beleivers throats. If ISIS was doing terrorist attacks for what they say (Religon)- See More▼
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SmolBeanie696
What is this "faith" you speak of? I am an atheist as well and I lost trust in humanity, so, no, I do not believe in this "faith".
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Caligurl01
I grew up with a christian family but as i am now in my teenage years, i startquestioning the world. As much as i wanna say i am christian i am going to heaven, whose to tell. I don't really know if there is a god or not. So i am in between atheism and christianism.
Bubbzei
me to! If there were (was?) positive, solid proof there is a god, i would believe it, but other than that... :/
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MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
I think that would be called an agnostic - not being sure whether or not a god exists.
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DontMindMyAwesome
Hi! I'm a proud Jesus Freak, and before I answer, I have a question (or two). First: Is this a genuine question, or are you just trying to make us look bad? I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I can't answer it if it is designed to be unanswerable. Second: Will you respect my opinion? I won't try to shove Jesus down your throat, but I won't NOT defend Him, either. So anyone who wants to have a (friendly) debate, please reply. Thank you.
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MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
"Look at all of those praying people getting tortured in that death camp. Excellent! I won't do anything to stop that. And look at that little girl down there being raped and murdered. Perfect! She is praying like mad, and so is her mother, but I won't do anything to stop that. And there are three terrorists preparing to blow up a church and kill 1,500 people who are saying the Lord's Prayer to me right now. Outstanding! I won't do anything to stop that. How wonderful it is that See More▼
Marvele
Lmao, the most anti-theistic, belittling post on this entire chain.
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SacredScriptsGirl
Haha, that paragraph was the first thing to slap my Christian face, long ago.
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Layla_The_Gayla
For me, Christianity isn't about proving God exists. I converted to have more faith in my life, have more strict morals as to how I should treat people, to have hope, etc. The truth is I have no idea if God exists or not. Nor do I care, because I choose to believe anyways and that alone gives me hope. Christianity helped me through some pretty tough times. So yes, faith is enough. But that's just ME. Religion is different for every single living being on this beautiful planet. See More▼
Layla_The_Gayla
If it wasn't clear enough, this is just my opinion. If you have a different opinion, I respect that.
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Rebel_Assasin
Honestly, I am Christian,
But I don't think faith is proof.
I think he's that little voice in the back of my head making sure I do the right thing before I end up with depression.
Concance? No, I have none.
But.. I don't know how, I'm not sure he exists anymore..
MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
THAT is a great answer.
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Rebel_Assasin
Really? I don't feel like it is.
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Lucky_Queen
Yes, it is. You obviously believe, by faith, that your brain exists, don't you? There are a lot of things that we believe that are based on trust or faith. Why should believing in God be any different?
Polarize
Hate to budge in but there is scientific proof that your brain exists.
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Lucky_Queen
Thanks.
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Polarize
Nah, I actually read over them thoroughly and I get what you are getting at. even tho i dont personally agree, i like how you think about this subject @MerTaylor
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Lucky_Queen
If that's what you think, then OK. Now it's your turn. Post your own links supporting evolution, and I'll cross-examine.
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Polarize
I read a couple of these and none of them thought of any theories really, just ruling out simple stuff. @MerTaylor
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Lucky_Queen
One minute I'm compiling links. As I do this, how about you do the same for your side of the argument? Then we'll cross-examine each others resources.
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Polarize
Such as? @MerTaylor
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Lucky_Queen
Yes. @TheRilingRavenclaw
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Polarize
Scientific? @MerTaylor
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Lucky_Queen
There has also been supporting evidence of creationism.
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MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
Yes, but supporting evidence of evolution has been found.
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Lucky_Queen
OK. Well, what about the theory of evolution? There is actually no way to prove or disprove this; it's just a theory. Same goes with creationism. You believe that it's true, and I believe that the world was created by God. There's no actual proof in either direction; we weren't there when either man evolved or God created the earth. But we both have our own theories See More▼
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Polarize
I know the Bible is a type of proof for people who believe... but I am not "trusting" science. I know my brain is there. It's basic knowledge. There are many many types of SCIENTIFIC evidence that can in fact be proven several different ways. @MerTaylor
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Lucky_Queen
So you're trusting science that your brain exists. I trust the Bible that God exists. Who are you to say that science is a better source than the Bible? You haven't seen your brain for yourself. You haven't studied other people's brains for yourself. You're relying on what other people tell you. Not saying that we don't have brains, just trying to make a point.
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MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
Because there are theories - such as evolution - that are partially scientifically proven. Yes, I believe that my brain exists, but it has been scientifically proven that my brain exists. There are things that I believe just by faith, but I do not wholeheartedly pursue those ideas. By the way, I am sorry for offending you in previous questions.
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Lucky_Queen
@DeadPunkette Okay! : )
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DeadPunkette
It's alright!
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Lucky_Queen
@DeadPunkette Sorry if I'm irritating you by continuing this conversation! I'm not meaning to spam you, just responding to the comment really quickly.
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Lucky_Queen
@SacredScriptsGirl Outside of that, I'm still trying to figure everything out. Tbh, I think that it only makes sense to love God above all else if he really exists; after all, he's responsible for our very existence, and he sacrificed a lot to save humanity. And yeah, that thing about God "testing" us through Satan's antics has always bothered me, too. But I See More▼
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Lucky_Queen
@SacredScriptsGirl I have to admit that you have a point about there being no solid proof for the existence of God. To be honest, I believe that's kind of the point; it's easy to believe in something obvious, whereas it requires faith to believe in something hidden. And as for the other questions you brought up, I have to admit that I don't really know the answers. See More▼
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SacredScriptsGirl
It annoys me that you want me to stop commenting because you get notifications. I'm sorry, but you could just delete them.
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DeadPunkette
I really don't want to start an argument. I know you didn't ask, but I really wish you'd stop. I'm not going to respond anymore, but it's very annoying getting notifications from something months ago. I hope you understand that.
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SacredScriptsGirl
... I wasn't asking you @DeadPunkette. I commented because I have something to say, it doesn't matter how long ago this was posted, does it? It's still here.
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DeadPunkette
dude, this was almost 2 years ago or smth
is there really a need to comment on everything??
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SacredScriptsGirl
@Lucky_Queen but most of the things the bible says, like parting an ocean with faith, was never shown anywhere else BUT the bible. There were thousands of people present, so it says, but where are the inspired paintings? Maybe monuments?

We can physically touch brains. We know they are there, still are there. The stories in the bible were never proved, to this See More▼
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Lucky_Queen
If you believe something exists because it has been scientifically proven, then you are putting your faith in science. If I believe in something that is Biblically proven, then I am putting my faith in the Bible. Who are you to say that science is more accurate than the Bible?
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DemiLovato567
The reason why we believe in God is because we as humans need something bigger than us to believe in. God influences us to do the right thing and to do something good in our lives. Sorry abut the capital G
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Marvele
Yes. I really, really do.
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Iscopeee
I'd like proof that god exists, and don't say the bible. An old book isn't proof. A lot of old books have outdated and incorrect information, why should the bible be any different? I am an atheist, but I don't believe that there is nothing after death. I don't know what happens after death, because the only way to find out is to die. But if I die, I can't come back to tell people, so that information remains unknown. I am an atheist because I believe there is no god, because there See More▼
MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
@SacredScriptsGirl YES. Thank you. I'm very proud of you.
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SacredScriptsGirl
There is only proof of there NOT existing a God. Recently I realized that. I've been brainwashed ever since I was a baby about Christianity, so it was hard, but I'm atheist now.
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Layla_The_Gayla
I don't think there is any actual proof (from what I know). But it's up to the individual if they want to believe or not. That's the beauty of faith, you don't NEED proof. But that is ONLY for the individual. It shouldn't and doesn't apply to Atheists because that's their choice and not the Christian's choice.
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TheSortingHat
Is it possible to be jewish/christian/muslim etc. but still not believe in a god?
SacredScriptsGirl
No, you can't. To be Christian is to believe in God. If you don't believe, you're not Christian, period.
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Polarize
It is in fact possible. You can believe in the foundation of Jewish/Christian/Muslim etc. culture but not strictly believe in the god. Religion is not based strictly around a god.
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Marvele
What the hell... You can't be a christian if you do not believe in Jesus Christ, the son of God. To be a christian is to believe in the gospel.
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SacredScriptsGirl
Um, you can't be Christian if you don't believe in God. You can be a person who likes the bible and its rules, but being Christian is believing in God, seriously.
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Lucky_Queen
OK. Nice talking to you.
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Polarize
Lmao i dont know how to talk
maybe it was my lack of ability or speak english

What i meant was:
No one has the right to tell someone what religion they are unless they ask and an assumption is made based off of beliefs. In the end, we may have different views of what a "christian person" is. I said that my opinion was that there are more elements in "gospel" See More▼
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Lucky_Queen
God is not "the specifics" of the religion. Whether or not to support LGBT is a 'specific.' Whether or not babtism is required for membership is a 'specific.' God is the very basis of Christianity.
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Polarize
It is in fact an important element, and yes, you believe that it is. But implying what you are saying, you do not have the right to tell if you are not Christian or not based off of your beliefs in the specifics of the religion. Believe what you will, I have nothing against you, I am just saying one single person does not have the right to judge or conclude on See More▼
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Lucky_Queen
God is the center of Christianity. He may not be the center of other religions, but I know that he is the center of Christianity. Without God, Christianity wouldn't exist.
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Lucky_Queen
According to many verses (the most commonly known being John 3:16), the very thing that makes Christianity Christianity is the fact that God sent his son, Jesus, to die on the cross, taking our sins so that we can live eternally in Heaven. That would make God the center of Christianity.
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Polarize
I agree, yes. But you are implying that simply this "god" you speak of if the only basis and reason that Christianity exists and is the strict basis. It is in fact one element you can remove while the statement stays true. Yes, it may not apply to you, but not everyone follows the exact same beliefs even though they may identify under one religion that you follow See More▼
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Lucky_Queen
OK. So we both agree that the Bible is the basis of Christianity. And we both agree that the even more important part of the Bible is the New Testament, because Christianity would be Judaism or Catholism without the gospels. Do you agree?
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Polarize
Yes, but never has the bible just been focused on god. @MerTaylor
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Lucky_Queen
I'm not being judgemental. All I'm saying is this: If you are a Christian, you believe that the Bible is true. This is a fact that we can both agree on, am I right?
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Polarize
Wow judgemental much @MerTaylor If someone identifies as a religion, you have no right to object. And "gospel" isn't just god.
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Lucky_Queen
No, I'm not saying that. What I am saying is that the very foundation of Christianity is God. You really can't be a Christian unless you believe in the gospel.
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Polarize
I am not. But you are saying I don't know anything. @MerTaylor
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Lucky_Queen
I never did. I asked whether or not you were and added an 'if.' Are you?
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Polarize
I have many Christian friends and family. And plus, you have no right to tell someone if they are Christian or not. @MerTaylor
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Lucky_Queen
Are you a Christian? If not, I really don't think that you can tell me what Christianity is about.
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Polarize
Not really. @MerTaylor
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Lucky_Queen
Christianity is.
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DeadPunkette
No.
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DeadPunkette
Jews: Jehovah/God
Muslims: Allah
Christians: God/Jesus
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Lucky_Queen
No. At least, it's not possible to be a Christian and not believe in God.
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DeadPunkette
Answer this for me, please.

Without SCIENCE itself ever existing, what would you believe in?
Marvele
SHE MEANS IF WE DID NOT KNOW EVERYTHING AND IF WE WERE NOT ABLE TO KNOW SCIENCE. Science would still exist, we just wouldn't know.
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KonataAndSebastianWithCakeAndCornets
If science didn't exist, HUMANITY wouldn't exist.
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MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
But science does exist, so what do you mean??
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@TheSortingHat
No. Buddhism and Atheism can be similar- but are not the same thing. Buddhists aspire to reach Nirvana, and be the best person they can be- so when they are reincarnated they will live good lives. Atheists believe that when you die- there is nothing. Not even darkness- just nothing.
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TheSortingHat
Aren't buddhists and atheists more or less the same thing?
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DeadPunkette
I'm sorry your hate of Christians effects you so much. We did nothing to you.
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MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
What. The. Heck. Dear me.

Let me explain it to you... slowly....

There... is.... always.... science. If there were no science, there would be nothing. Even then, I'd be a Buddhist. Ever after I prayed for my lizard not to die (and he died right after: it was Valentine's day), I have vowed to never believe in god. Heck, I'd even be a Buddhist MONK - anything See More▼
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DeadPunkette
No, I asked you to do something so simple a kindergartener could do and you can't.

And in your own mind, you are right. Not mine.
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MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
What? Can't stand the fact that I'm right? /:|
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DeadPunkette
Oh my gosh.
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MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
That is physically impossible. There is always science. There cannot be a world without science. Every living thing has its own biology, which is science. If there was a world without science, then there would be nothing. Literally nothing. Everything has science in some way - rocks, trees, food...
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DeadPunkette
I asked you to IMAGINE a world without SCIENCE. Is that too hard?
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MysticMedievalSamuraiPrincess
There is always science.....
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DeadPunkette
*facepalm* I asked to you imagine a world without science.
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Therightofthedead
It's a nice thought to think that the horrible stuff a person does is not his\her fault don't you think? Besides I think its just so bland to use science I would rather think something made me the way I am not to blame for being ... "Human" we are all in the end subtypes of bacteria due to evolution right? Maybe its just the chaos of free thought but aren't we all simply a subtype of the simplest life form in the eye of science I like to think that I am unique but f*ck it. I am See More▼
Therightofthedead
All of this couldn't fit in one. This one Is first.
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Humanity holds seven sins Wrath, Gluttony, Greed, Pride, Sloth, Lust and finally the most fun and common sin Greed. Each I like to think holds its own punishment it helps me think at night and if they weren't punished I may have gone insane when I was younger for what use would their be in being good that's why I decided when I would die I will die in the most glorious way possible self sacrifice and see if it would be a final great act of courage or hubris for allowing someone See More▼
Therightofthedead
This one is second Look up.
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